Cara Forelli
Green Skull LLC
823
   |
Posted - 2015.01.01 01:18:08 -
[2] - Quote
ergherhdfgh wrote:So you have a mission runner in an expensive ship that is not set up to PvP having everything to loose and nothing to gain up against a ganker completely prepared and set up for PvP with everything to gain and nothing to loose and if the mission runner doesn't do the absolute dumbest thing that you could do he is somehow a coward?
As someone that has dabbled in what Ralph is describing I'm with you here. Not engaging isn't cowardice...it's just intelligence.
ergherhdfgh wrote:If ganking were an effective way to learn PvP then the CODE guys would have done better at the last Alliance tournament.
If you want to pad your kill boards with easy kills then do what Ralph is telling you but if you want to become good at PvP I think that you are better off following one of the other suggestions here.
You've lost me. Mission baiting is not ganking. It is consensual PvP, as the mission runner has to engage first. They may be unwise to do so, but that doesn't make it ganking.
It's also not always easy, and it IS a good way to learn PvP. I killed a PVE Dominix in my Hawk. No, it didn't have tackle, but it did nearly kill me and there was a lot of micromanaging of capacitor and heat. You can learn quite a bit about engaging larger targets and all of it is applicable in PvP - especially if the mission runner has neuts or bonused drones. It's very similar to the situation where you are flying tackle and need to stay alive for an extended period while holding down a large target.
If you want to make the argument that it's "watered down" PVP and won't teach you anything about other forms of PVP then I would counter that you can say that about any form of PVP. Faction Warfare is dominated by afterburner+scram+web brawling frigates, but that style is rare in other areas of EVE. Does that make it less valid? No...it's the correct solution for the situation (fighting in and around FW plex beacons). EVE is all about adapting to the situation.
TLDR: I don't agree with either of you. A smart mission runner knows not to engage a target in a PVE ship. They have no reason to risk their ship when they haven't even fit tackle. Baiting is not ganking and it's not as easy as you think. It doesn't cover the entire scope of PVP in EVE but it can help you learn the basics of manual piloting, cap management, heat management, and losing your newbie jitters.
To the OP - Try mission baiting it if it appeals to you. If not, FW is also a great option and should assuage any moral qualms about shooting "innocents".
Adventures
New player with questions? Join my public channel in game: House Forelli
GSLLC is recruiting
|